EU referendum are you in or out

[snaff]

Remain has George Soros on their side. Not so innocent there either.

[merman]

Remain has George Soros on their side. Not so innocent there either.

Has George Soros broken electoral law? The Leave campaign did.

[snaff]

Remain has George Soros on their side. Not so innocent there either.

Has George Soros broken electoral law? The Leave campaign did.

Well you're right there should be respect for the law and individuals who broke it should be punished, but I don't think the law is sophisticated enough as a measure of the result's validity. There are much more complex forces at work on both sides and it's up to our crappy leaders to decide what's valid rather than any technicality.

[merman]

Technicality?
The Electoral Commission investigated the Vote Leave campaign.
The Vote Leave campaign overspent and broke electoral law.

The result should be nullified. Fact.

[(o)(o)]

[IronGiant]

Vote Leave's targeted Brexit ads released by Facebook

More of the lies, manipulation and pure xenophobia as promoted by the Leave side

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44966969

[snaff]

Vote Leave's targeted Brexit ads released by Facebook

More of the lies, manipulation and pure xenophobia as promoted by the Leave side

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44966969

I didn't know the EU was trying to stamp out cups of tea but it doesn't surprise me.

a committee of MPs investigating fake news

I feel safer already.

[KlaxonCow]

So, "no deal is better than a bad deal", May says, as she stockpiles food and supplies, ready for the potential impending apocalypse of a "no deal" Brexit.

Sure, in the end, it might not come down to it.

But, for fuck's sake, the very fact that our government is - perfectly necessarily - planning some kind of "wartime strategy" to secure our food supplies should be making everyone - Leavers and Remainers - shit themselves.

Not least because we all know that government planning is completely fucking incompetent and useless. I hope no "comprehensive computer system" is involved, as they've never got that one right ever (which, by the way, is what they're suggesting for handling the customs situation - using "technology" to solve the problem - which means that it won't work).

(If you want me after March, I'll be hunkering down in my bunker at the bottom of the garden, working through my stockpile of bean tins and water bottles, waiting for the "nuclear winter" of Brexit to be over.)

[phattslagg]

I didn't know the EU was trying to stamp out cups of tea but it doesn't surprise me.

It wasn't

[VNVObit]

So, "no deal is better than a bad deal", May says, as she stockpiles food and supplies, ready for the potential impending apocalypse of a "no deal" Brexit.

Sure, in the end, it might not come down to it.

But, for fuck's sake, the very fact that our government is - perfectly necessarily - planning some kind of "wartime strategy" to secure our food supplies should be making everyone - Leavers and Remainers - shit themselves.

Not least because we all know that government planning is completely fucking incompetent and useless. I hope no "comprehensive computer system" is involved, as they've never got that one right ever (which, by the way, is what they're suggesting for handling the customs situation - using "technology" to solve the problem - which means that it won't work).

(If you want me after March, I'll be hunkering down in my bunker at the bottom of the garden, working through my stockpile of bean tins and water bottles, waiting for the "nuclear winter" of Brexit to be over.)

comprehensive computer system for the frictionless border was one of their ideas (with no concept of what it would entail)

it's as if they watched the Soft Border Patrol series (still available on BBC iPlayer ) and thought it was a documentary

[gilesgoat]

OK "NOW I FINALLY GOT IT" !!!

I KNOW why "all these migrants want to come to UK" .. I CAN give you an answer !

I am in Italy right NOW, I just went out to get some - extremely basic - food .. let's put it this way ..

"I can live in ( some parts of ) UK with the salary of an underpaid illegal polish worker I CAN NOT live in Italy with the salary of a CEO !!!!! "

It's ... MENTAL every time I come back in Italy for a while what I see "I don't understand it, to me looks worse and worse" ..

A packge of butter of 200g costing like 1/2 of a bottle of some vodka in UK, food, BASIC food, like milk, butter, oil, pasta, sugar, eggs seems "more valuable than gold".

We don't even speak about bread - that is a LUXURY - or cheese - that's only if you are super rich - I don't even go into meat/fish I am too poor to just look at it

You go anywhere "20 eur fly like they would be 2 pounds in UK" ..

In UK, with one pound, I can get some "el cheapo pasty something" made dunno with what but I can have a bite of something can 1/3 fill me up or at least prevent me dying of starvation right there and there ..

In Italy, 1 eur I don't even know at this point if it's enough to give me access to a public toilet !!

I know in UK I can go to LIDL or ALDI and find some "beer" that is 30p or something .. in Italy we nearly got the point 3 eur won't buy you a tin of beer ...

I never got it "why Italians are always complaining they never get enough money", if those are the prices I can see why now.

It's .. fraking .. scary ..

I am seriously thinking that "when time will come" I should get a last trip and spend my last days in Banarash ( Benares, Varansi or how you call it ) living with 2 pounds per day praying Lord Shiva and smashing myself in Bhang Lassi for less than 1 pound ..

At least worst case scenario I may end my time hugging some cow on the street, rather then being throwin in some huge shit in Italy where 3000 eur per month won't even pay me for a room in a shithole

Products in the stores - TRADITIONAL ITALIAN PRODUCTS that been there for centuries .. disappering .. "the companies have gone on nearly gone" .. I go to the "pasta" section .. there's almost NO PASTA !!!!! Of the HUGE selection of Barilla that was a tiny speckle of it remains !!!!

Supplanted by "Selex" pasta or "unknown brands/origin" pasta made who knows where/how/with what.

I don't know any more what is become of Italy and/or what's going to be, but I really don't like it !

It's too fraking expensive .. it's too fraking mental .. and I still DO NOT understand "how people seem still to live fine here"

"Where do they find all that money they need ?".

I don't know, I really don't know, I don't understand any more what I am seeing !

[Cloudane]

Maybe we don't have it so bad after all. Yet.

But, for fuck's sake, the very fact that our government is - perfectly necessarily - planning some kind of "wartime strategy" to secure our food supplies should be making everyone - Leavers and Remainers - shit themselves.

The leavers I've heard shouting down the phone on LBC etc aren't arsed. Most of them Just. Want. Out.

There are two reactions to the warnings it seems:

1) So what, we'll manage, we're British, we got through World War 2 by making do and suffering a few food rations, and we'll get through this too with a stiff upper lip. It'll all be worth it to keep the forrins out and have are sovr'nty.

2) It's all a loony left remoaner Project Fear conspiracy and there are no such dangers. Nothing will ever make them believe a word of it until they're sat with a cold empty baked bean tin themselves.

Hopefully, indeed, we'll somehow get by e.g. with rationing but yeah scary times ahead.

[PFVA]

OK "NOW I FINALLY GOT IT" !!!

.....
I am in Italy right NOW, ... ... ....

You fled the heat wave in the UK?

[Harlequin]

OK "NOW I FINALLY GOT IT" !!!
.....
I am in Italy right NOW, ... ... ....

You fled the heat wave in the UK?

It was too cold for him in Wales.

He might be regretting it now, though.

[gilesgoat]

OK "NOW I FINALLY GOT IT" !!!

.....
I am in Italy right NOW, ... ... ....

You fled the heat wave in the UK?

No .. I had to do some hospital checkup thing while here, plus I am on time for mum's birthday

.. and it's warmer than UK here ...