EU referendum are you in or out

[gilesgoat]

But then you couldn't possibly understand any of that, what with you being a dago/kraut/frog/wop/belgie/greek/other assorted wogs (wot, as any fule kno, start at Calais).

Er .. no .. in fact apart 'kraut' and 'frog' and 'belgie/greek' I don't even know what the other words mean ...

Despite we may have 'some differences in opinions' about certain things, I don't think that as an Italian I have reasons to have any 'stored/particular animosity' against any of them.

At this point I have to think "it must be UK that has a bit of a strange view about the rest of Europe" and yet I think UK is ( or was ? ) appreciated in Europe and not "because you have money", that's not the point of.

Anyway yes "I can't understand" and I REALLY DO NOT WANT understand it, I don't want to start having animosity I never had thank you

By the way I think I read Theresa May is just having a fantastic holiday in Italy at Desenzano del Garda, one of the nicest places of Italy .. why she's not having the time of her life in Blackpool then

[Little stoned kiwi]

https://beeflambnz.com/news-views/brexit-updateInteresting times. There was talk of splitting the quotas and tariffs between the UK/EU. But industries are playing the "we made a deal with the EU via the WTO and expect the EU to stick with it!". Making the EU stick to existing agreements and then setting up an additional deal with the UK. Kinda satisfying. By the EU firm on a hard Brexit, other countries are being firm on the EU over a hard Brexit.
Also interesting that representatives from the EU and UK are talking to each other and non-EU countries about how Brexit will go down.

[Little stoned kiwi]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... rade-plans
Looks like this issue has been going on for some time. The EU might have to renegotiate all their WTO deals and pay associated penalties.

[Harlequin]

But then you couldn't possibly understand any of that, what with you being a dago/kraut/frog/wop/belgie/greek/other assorted wogs (wot, as any fule kno, start at Calais).

Er .. no .. in fact apart 'kraut' and 'frog' and 'belgie/greek' I don't even know what the other words mean ...

dago

noun, plural da·gos, da·goes. (often initial capital letter) Slang: Extremely Disparaging and Offensive.
1. a contemptuous term used to refer to a person of Italian or sometimes Spanish origin or descent.

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At this point I have to think "it must be UK that has a bit of a strange view about the rest of Europe" and yet I think UK is ( or was ? ) appreciated in Europe and not "because you have money", that's not the point of.

Remember that we are a couple of islands physically isolated from continental Europe.

[F-ZeroOne]

Something I forgot to mention is that the if you don't like aspects of the club, you can try and change it using its agreed procedures for doing so. You may not always get your way, other members may not like you much and resist you, but its probably easier to do so from within the club rather than risking your benefits by storming out and ripping up your membership card in the hope of finding a club [1] that suits you better when the choice of clubs is a bit limited (and those clubs are a bit wary of potential members known to throw tantrums).

[1] Its just possible that by stretching the "club" metaphor this far, I'm making British forum members feel a sudden desire for a chocloate-coated biscuit snack.

[PFVA]

dago

noun, plural da·gos, da·goes. (often initial capital letter) Slang: Extremely Disparaging and Offensive.
1. a contemptuous term used to refer to a person of Italian or sometimes Spanish origin or descent.

Italy, Spain but not Portugal. How nice, we were excluded. Ow... wait we must be included in Spain. I forgot that often people think Portugal is part of Spain.

[Little stoned kiwi]

Something I forgot to mention is that the if you don't like aspects of the club, you can try and change it using its agreed procedures for doing so. You may not always get your way, other members may not like you much and resist you, but its probably easier to do so from within the club rather than risking your benefits by storming out and ripping up your membership card in the hope of finding a club [1] that suits you better when the choice of clubs is a bit limited (and those clubs are a bit wary of potential members known to throw tantrums).

[1] Its just possible that by stretching the "club" metaphor this far, I'm making British forum members feel a sudden desire for a chocloate-coated biscuit snack.

You mean like when the UK abandoned the Commonwealth and dealings with other countries to join the EU?
Changing clubs is a legitimate strategy.

[korruptor]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... rade-plans
Looks like this issue has been going on for some time. The EU might have to renegotiate all their WTO deals and pay associated penalties.

The EU have presented the changes to the WTO on this very basis. They've been very open in saying this is a material change and will involve renegotiation. Amusingly, the UK has done the complete opposite.

And the UK is a member of the commonwealth.

[Little stoned kiwi]

How can you really say the UK is part of the Commonwealth when they are an EU member? They can't make trade and policy deals.

[korruptor]

That's like saying the UK can't be a member of the WTO because it's a member of the EU.

(It is a member of the WTO)

[tufty]

Italy, Spain but not Portugal. How nice, we were excluded. Ow... wait we must be included in Spain. I forgot that often people think Portugal is part of Spain.

Don't worry, Paula, British xenophobia is entirely inclusive. Yes, the Portugese, considered as they are as a sort of inbred wannabe Spaniards, are also dagos, and potentially also wogs (which, as any fule kno, start at Calais).

The entire "Little Englander" mythos is based on considering "ourselves" to be far superior to everybody else. Back in the day we invented proper agriculture and industry, and were pretty good at sailing around and lording it over the wogs. The traditional English football chant of "two world wars and one world cup" when facing the Germans^H^H^H^HKrauts, however, fails entirely to take into account the unfortunate fact of post-1950s British geopolitical clout, i.e. "fuck all outside of Europe". That chant should be "two world wars, one world cup, 50 years of shocking technological, industrial and sporting underachievement", but that doesn't scan, I guess.

We're a US protectorate, whose only chance of actually meaning anything in the modern world has just been killed off, largely based on the business decisions of an octagenarian kangaroo fucker.

[gilesgoat]

Italy, Spain but not Portugal. How nice, we were excluded. Ow... wait we must be included in Spain. I forgot that often people think Portugal is part of Spain.

Don't worry, Paula, British xenophobia is entirely inclusive. Yes, the Portugese, considered as they are as a sort of inbred wannabe Spaniards, are also dagos, and potentially also wogs (which, as any fule kno, start at Calais).

The entire "Little Englander" mythos is based on considering "ourselves" to be far superior to everybody else. Back in the day we invented proper agriculture and industry, and were pretty good at sailing around and lording it over the wogs. The traditional English football chant of "two world wars and one world cup" when facing the Germans^H^H^H^HKrauts, however, fails entirely to take into account the unfortunate fact of post-1950s British geopolitical clout, i.e. "fuck all outside of Europe". That chant should be "two world wars, one world cup, 50 years of shocking technological, industrial and sporting underachievement", but that doesn't scan, I guess.

We're a US protectorate, whose only chance of actually meaning anything in the modern world has just been killed off, largely based on the business decisions of an octagenarian kangaroo fucker.

Duuuudeeeee .. this is SO SAD ... why there's not enough Love & Peace in the world ?

.. there were time UK was a bit different ...

[F-ZeroOne]

Something I forgot to mention is that the if you don't like aspects of the club, you can try and change it using its agreed procedures for doing so. You may not always get your way, other members may not like you much and resist you, but its probably easier to do so from within the club rather than risking your benefits by storming out and ripping up your membership card in the hope of finding a club [1] that suits you better when the choice of clubs is a bit limited (and those clubs are a bit wary of potential members known to throw tantrums).

You mean like when the UK abandoned the Commonwealth and dealings with other countries to join the EU?
Changing clubs is a legitimate strategy.

I never said it wasn't, but the way in which you change clubs might influence how those clubs view your membership application.

[Harlequin]

How can you really say the UK is part of the Commonwealth when they are an EU member? They can't make trade and policy deals.

The Commonwealth of Nations has never been a trade bloc. Our Queen is still its Head.

[Little stoned kiwi]

No, it's not a trading bloc. One of the principles of the Commonwealth is the promotion of free trade. The UK gave up on that and its existing trade partners to join the EU trade bloc.