EU referendum are you in or out

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Also pineapples are mostly sourced from Costa Rica IIRC, so not a problem post Brexit.

[KlaxonCow]

If we're honest, tomato is a fruit

Yes, that had occurred to me as I was writing the above.

(And, also, I wonder how many people know that tomato ketchup is absolutely packed with sugar? You might as well be pouring a bag "Tate and Lyle" over your chips and peas for its sugar content. But I guess it gets away with it because, with a bit of a sour / acidic tang to it, it doesn't taste fruit-like or ketchup feel super-sweet.)

Much like how they say "5 a day" on the fruit and veg. But you're not allowed to count potatoes.

So, the vegetable "potato" is not a vegetable and the fruit "tomato" is not a fruit. Even though they actually are.

I think the lesson to take home from all this is that nearly all "food advice" - fad diets, "savoury before sweet", bacon sandwiches cause / prevent cancer (as the advice changes every two weeks), etc. - is complete bollocks and basically no-one really knows what the fuck they are talking about (but EVERYONE feels qualified to talk about it, and tell you their totally unproven ideas anyway).

[merman]

Also pineapples are mostly sourced from Costa Rica IIRC, so not a problem post Brexit.

But do we have an existing trade deal with Costa Rica?

Liam Fox has flown 400,000 miles around the world, cost taxpayers £291,000 in costs and has secured a grand total of.... ZERO TRADE DEALS.

Best of all, the U.K. has signed a new deal without him, with the trading powerhouse that is the Faroe Islands and on basically the same terms as we had before Brexit.

[merman]

And let's be clear about one thing.

Donald Tusk's comments today said that he hoped there was "a special place reserved in Hell" for those who PROMOTED Brexit without a clear plan of what happens next.

So he is not attacking those who voted Leave, just the people that misled, cheated and lied to influence them into voting Leave.

(P.S. A right-wing think-tank fined for campaigning for Leave, breaching Charity Commission rules. The more you hear, the less you believe that the results of the advisory referendum should have led us to this current mess...)

[rowan]

Much like how they say "5 a day" on the fruit and veg. But you're not allowed to count potatoes.

So, the vegetable "potato" is not a vegetable and the fruit "tomato" is not a fruit. Even though they actually are.

I think the lesson to take home from all this is that nearly all "food advice" - fad diets, "savoury before sweet", bacon sandwiches cause / prevent cancer (as the advice changes every two weeks), etc. - is complete bollocks and basically no-one really knows what the fuck they are talking about (but EVERYONE feels qualified to talk about it, and tell you their totally unproven ideas anyway).

Whilst tomato is botanically a fruit, 9 times out of 10 it is used in similar ways to vegetables in a culinary sense. It's quite easy to see why it always gets included in the "veg" rather than "fruit".

I think "5 a day" was all about trying to encourage people to get variety and volume in fresh fruit & green veg. Potatoes are less about the kind of benefits of green veg and more about carbohydrate and I guess that's why they are excluded.

Savoury before sweet is down to a more traditional Western diet of a savoury course [that doesn't include sweet ingredients] followed by a sweet dessert.
Since eating sweet things makes people feel full quicker than eating savoury things, having the sweet first ruins the appetite.

Chutney's origins are down to "disguise the food however you can because it's rotten but we can't afford more" and apple sauce should never be sweet. If it is, you made it wrongly [or worse, it came from a jar, where they always over sweeten things hugely]. The purpose of that is to eat it with fattier meat such as pork and the acid "cuts through" the fat a bit.

[F-ZeroOne]

Seems to be the week for somewhat mistimed comments:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47143135

However, what all the absolutely-not-requiring-a-safe-space-totally-not-a-snowflake prominent Leave supporters are not going to pick up on is that Tusk didn't say "Theres a special place in Hell for Leave voters!" and leave it at that; he continued "...those who promoted Brexit without even a sketch of a plan of how to carry it out safely".

I'm sure tomorrows Brexit-supporting tabloids will also definitely pick up on the distinction.

[Rhythm]

Seems to be the week for somewhat mistimed comments:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47143135

He's wound up the goflakes good and proper. Fucking love it, have been laughing my tits off all afternoon

[PFVA]

Have you read this?

It was published on CNBC and i got it via Yahoo

Brexit is a revolt against a German-run European super-state

Although the form of the British exit from the EU is often presented as a reductionist binary choice — "a no-deal exit" or "a deal the U.K. and the EU can live with" — London has in effect restated the fundamental question of what is a European project: A Europe of sovereign nation states, or a federal European super-state.

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/brexi ... os_go3qr9s

[gilesgoat]

Have you read this?

It was published on CNBC and i got it via Yahoo

Brexit is a revolt against a German-run European super-state

Although the form of the British exit from the EU is often presented as a reductionist binary choice — "a no-deal exit" or "a deal the U.K. and the EU can live with" — London has in effect restated the fundamental question of what is a European project: A Europe of sovereign nation states, or a federal European super-state.

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/brexi ... os_go3qr9s

So they prefer an USA - China - Russia super-state ?

[Barney]

I have no idea why the West ever developed this tradition in the first place, mind you - and a quick Google search doesn't really enlighten me of any clear obvious reasons - but it is a thing. Or, perhaps, maybe we should say "was a thing", because I think, with the influences of world food, no-one below a certain age gives any shits to maintain this inexplicable rule anymore, and curries and kebabs and other foreign treats have taken over the popular Zeitgeist.

You eat your savouries first because that's your source of slow energy in the carbs, and proteins etc. But that doesn't give you any quick-release energy, so you eat a sweet dish afterwards which provides that fast energy while your digestive process gets to work digesting the savouries. Eating carbs prior also prevents the sugar crash you inevitably get from the sweet dish, which is a nice side effect.

[KlaxonCow]

You eat your savouries first because that's your source of slow energy in the carbs, and proteins etc. But that doesn't give you any quick-release energy, so you eat a sweet dish afterwards which provides that fast energy while your digestive process gets to work digesting the savouries. Eating carbs prior also prevents the sugar crash you inevitably get from the sweet dish, which is a nice side effect.

That sounds perfectly plausible to me.

Although, it still leaves one question. Why did the West in particular give a shit about all this, while the rest of the planet didn't care?

[zip accident]

You eat your savouries first because that's your source of slow energy in the carbs, and proteins etc. But that doesn't give you any quick-release energy, so you eat a sweet dish afterwards which provides that fast energy while your digestive process gets to work digesting the savouries. Eating carbs prior also prevents the sugar crash you inevitably get from the sweet dish, which is a nice side effect.

That sounds perfectly plausible to me.

Although, it still leaves one question. Why did the West in particular give a shit about all this, while the rest of the planet didn't care?

The rest of the planet doesn't have temporary winters where starvation is a bigger risk than in the rest of the year.

[merman]

Theresa Maybe: I can get my deal through if the EU making legally-binding concessions to the Withdrawal Agreement.

EU: no dice


It took her EIGHT DAYS to even go to Brussels and minutes for them to reject her - again.

Corbyn does seem to be offering a sensible compromise, even if it's upset some of his own party.

[snaff]

[snaff]

You eat your savouries first because that's your source of slow energy in the carbs, and proteins etc. But that doesn't give you any quick-release energy, so you eat a sweet dish afterwards which provides that fast energy while your digestive process gets to work digesting the savouries. Eating carbs prior also prevents the sugar crash you inevitably get from the sweet dish, which is a nice side effect.

That sounds perfectly plausible to me.

Although, it still leaves one question. Why did the West in particular give a shit about all this, while the rest of the planet didn't care?

The west is superior in most respects, eg. science, democracy, capitalism. How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?