EU referendum are you in or out

[Harlequin]

Liam Fox, 2019: we don't have time to ratify and roll over the new EU trade deal with Japan in time, we can't just roll over the customs Union deal with Turkey, we haven't been able to sign any new trade deals since signing Article 50, and things will get worse for trade if we leave with no deal...

I think we have managed a few, including with Mauritius, Madagascar, Zimbabwe, the Seychelles, the Faroe Isles and the Palestinian Authority.

[tufty]

Can't do deals with the palestinians, that's anti-semitic.

Meanwhile, another rat jumps from SS Corbyn, and HMS Tory is holed below the waterline and taking on water after heavy fire from its own guns.

[Dio]

I do not know what evidence you think is being ignored in your second list, especially in the case of the Cabal that Tries to Control and Profit From Everything.

Occam's and Hanlon's Razors, at least. I mean, you call out September 11th. It is vastly, vastly more likely that it happened largely according to the published official narrative than it was any grand government plot, and a failure to catch the people involved is quite obviously more likely than knowing what the plan was and allowing it to happen anyway.

Unfettered global capitalism doesn't need such a cabal to work together to generate money for the people on the inside. It does that inherently, itself, and it arises without any grand plan. Capitalism 'just works that way'. Maybe some people are ignorant of that rather than knowing but ignoring that, but it's effectively the same thing.

[Rhythm]

This lack of evidence and/or nuance in the anti-Semitism debate is important

[VNVObit]

This lack of evidence and/or nuance in the anti-Semitism debate is important

Interesting article but it does say Corbyn has been inept at dealing with it and does employ whataboutism (Antisemitism in other parties, probably but do those parties make a virtue of being anti racist like labour?)

Think Falconer’s idea of accelerating the processing of cases with additional resources is probably a more practical solution as surveys can be manipulated (as anyone taken an aptitude test will know)

Stronger leadership would have helped (which article admits)

As to MSM complaints - stop complaining and stop providing people with ammunition to print unfavourable articles otherwise you sound just like Trump

[merman]

Theresa Maybe's latest "offer" - a vote for MPs on the 12th of March.

Three Cabinet ministers about to revolt, a plethora of amendments that the Government could lose this week, and she just kicks the can down the road for another fortnight...

[Absolute_Zero]

The Kyle/Wilson amendment proposal seems interesting.

Labour would back May's meaningful vote on March 13th in exchange for a A50 delay and confirmatory referendum [~July possibly]. The two options would then be her negotiated deal vs the status quo.

Apparently Corbyn is currently cold on the proposal but McDonnell is warm-ish.

The DUP would walk on their arrangement with the Government... oh-noes! So she'd need a confidence and supply arrangement (as offered by the TIGgers) for the period up to the referendum.

Might work. The ERG wouldn't be happy... oh-noes!

[Absolute_Zero]

^ March 12th

[tufty]

…Assuming she doesn't delay it to the 27th or 28th.

[PFVA]

Jeremy Corbyn will tell a meeting of the party’s MPs that the move would “prevent a damaging Tory Brexit being forced on the country”.

However, it was unclear – from the statement issued by the Labour leader – whether Mr Corbyn was pledging to back a referendum on Theresa May’s deal, or on its own Brexit proposals.

From the Independent via Yahoo:
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/brexit-labour ... 00626.html

[Harlequin]

The DUP would walk on their arrangement with the Government... oh-noes! So she'd need a confidence and supply arrangement (as offered by the TIGgers) for the period up to the referendum.

I think that, after the recent defections to TIG, the Conservative/DUP coalition has already fallen below a Parliamentary majority.

[Harlequin]

The chair of Momentum thinks that there has been an increase in Labour member Judeophobia since the social media-led membership drive in 2015.

[zip accident]

The DUP would walk on their arrangement with the Government... oh-noes! So she'd need a confidence and supply arrangement (as offered by the TIGgers) for the period up to the referendum.

I think that, after the recent defections to TIG, the Conservative/DUP coalition has already fallen below a Parliamentary majority.

How many have gone? last I heard it was three, the DUP brought in ten, and not all of those were needed for the minimum majority I thought I remembered.

[tufty]

The Conservatives currently have 314 seats, and the DUP, as you say, bring 10. That makes 324 out of 650, 2 short of a majority

[Portland]

The Conservatives currently have 314 seats, and the DUP, as you say, bring 10. That makes 324 out of 650, 2 short of a majority

But Sinn Fein never attend, so effective number of seats in 643. Think there's a vacant seat at the moment too.