EU referendum are you in or out

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EU Are you IN or OUT

In
98
77%
Out
21
17%
Undecided (shake it all about)
8
6%
 
Total votes: 127

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I've seen the petition everywhere - don't think it's just bots.

Email came through eventually! Took hours.
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BBC News - Brexit: EU leaders agree Brexit delay plan
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47660019

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The April 12th fallback complicates things. I guess Parliament will see it as an opportunity to carry on carrying on. We will see.
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Petitions aren't enough, we need to get the message across directly to our MP's, who after all are supposed to represent US.

This is an automated way to send an email to your MP – it literally took me 20 seconds to fill in.

https://www.anothereurope.org/mp-write/revoke/
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Yeah why not
My birthday on the 13th, a hard brexit would be a shit present

It actually isn't difficult to contact your MP
https://www.writetothem.com/

I'm inclined to go the email route as they might take personally written pleas seriously
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merman wrote:So now Theresa Maybe tries to shift the blame onto MPs for her terrible negotiations.
She would have gotten away with it if it had not been for that pesky Parliament!
RiK wrote:Petitions aren't enough, we need to get the message across directly to our MP's, who after all are supposed to represent US.
This is an automated way to send an email to your MP – it literally took me 20 seconds to fill in.
https://www.anothereurope.org/mp-write/revoke/
Unfortunately, the default text for that contains a number of seeming untruths, such as "The European Union has said that it will not accept any extension to Article 50 unless parliament votes for Theresa May’s deal." (Juncker has explicitly stated that, should May's deal be rejected yet again, "all options remain on the table ... the UK government will still have a chance of a deal, no deal, a long extension or revoking Article 50", until April 12th) and "Parliament can re-invoke Article 50 at any time." (I think it has been established that another invocation would not be acceptable until long after revocation).
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Harlequin wrote:
merman wrote:So now Theresa Maybe tries to shift the blame onto MPs for her terrible negotiations.
She would have gotten away with it if it had not been for that pesky Parliament!
RiK wrote:Petitions aren't enough, we need to get the message across directly to our MP's, who after all are supposed to represent US.
This is an automated way to send an email to your MP – it literally took me 20 seconds to fill in.
https://www.anothereurope.org/mp-write/revoke/
Unfortunately, the default text for that contains a number of seeming untruths, such as "The European Union has said that it will not accept any extension to Article 50 unless parliament votes for Theresa May’s deal." (Juncker has explicitly stated that, should May's deal be rejected yet again, "all options remain on the table ... the UK government will still have a chance of a deal, no deal, a long extension or revoking Article 50", until April 12th) and "Parliament can re-invoke Article 50 at any time." (I think it has been established that another invocation would not be acceptable until long after revocation).
Keeps going with "we give you a bunch of incorrect information and we want you to express a vote about ?" .. it's the will of the people ...
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snaff wrote:
IronGiant wrote:Has anyone seen the Revoke Article 50 petition on the government's site?

Signatures are coming in incredibly fast. The site is though up and down due to the load, it cannae take it captain.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241584
Bots.
Already disproved. 3 million signatures and rising.

Tell me, do you still think Brexit is the will of the people?
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merman wrote:
snaff wrote:
IronGiant wrote:Has anyone seen the Revoke Article 50 petition on the government's site?

Signatures are coming in incredibly fast. The site is though up and down due to the load, it cannae take it captain.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241584
Bots.
Already disproved. 3 million signatures and rising.

Tell me, do you still think Brexit is the will of the people?
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Four million.
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Only another 13.4 million to go before Leadsom gives a shit
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Misfit wrote: They're doing a very nice spread of UK postcodes if it is bots...
As the spread roughly matches the referendum result it would be very clever bots...

Although perhaps cleverer would be to try to show a swing in some high leave areas.

What's odd is that Scotland aren't looking as pro-remain compared to England as they were... Do they simply not like signing online petitions as much, or is it due to tactical voting by the nats, voting remain but loathe to sign the petition because they secretly wish for the worst possible Brexit in order to drive a wedge between Scotland and England?
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Explanation as to why its unlikely to be bots, at least to any significant degree:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-47668946

Meanwhile, Nigel is claiming its Russian collusion, a statement which immediately caused irreversible damage to irony meters across the planet.
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Re: EU referendum are you in or out

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For fuck's sake, there is zero need to invoke "bots" or "Russian collusion", when this - sourced from the Electoral Commission itself - is a matter of verified public record:

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Occam's Razor. Over 16 million people voted Remain and those people have not been remotely dissuaded by the last two and a bit years of criminal incompetence to have changed their minds in the meantime - and, with 5 days to go until "Brexit Day", they somewhat feel an urgency to register their protest (and have virally spread the link to others they know feel similarly).

Simple as that. It requires no further conspiratorial explanation.

As the petition itself requests, can we please stop rewriting history as if the Leave vote was the universal and unanimous "Will of the People", and anything else must be "bots" or "Russians" because, apparently, the 16 million odd people who didn't vote for Brexit don't exist and only the slightly greater 17 million who said "fuck off" count for anything?

Look at our very own poll at the top of this thread. Was that "bots" or "Russians" as well? Or is it just that the YakYak constituency who participated in that poll was much more "remain" than "leave", and that's the sole explanation required there?

(By the way, if you disagree with me, then clearly you are being mind-controlled by the lizard people, who faked the Moon landings, using chemtrails and brain wave machines, as you forgot to wear your tinfoil hats. Because that's obviously far more plausible than the idea that another human beings might simply have a different perspective from their different life experience to you.)


p.s. the petition is about to hit 5 million at time of writing.
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KlaxonCow wrote:As the petition itself requests, can we please stop rewriting history as if the Leave vote was the universal and unanimous "Will of the People", and anything else must be "bots" or "Russians" because, apparently, the 16 million odd people who didn't vote for Brexit don't exist and only the slightly greater 17 million who said "fuck off" count for anything?
Only those who voted to leave are 'The People'. The 62.5% of the electorate who are reported not to have done so simply do not exist.

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