EU referendum are you in or out

[KlaxonCow]

And i saw today (in the Guardian) one more new word :

Flextension. It must be flexible+extension

And now we have that "Brexit flextension" to 31st October.

(Which is Halloween, by the way. Who says that the Germans have no sense of humour?)

[PFVA]

A Brexit Halloween or a Halloween Brexit?

[Cloudane]

Portmanteaus are the in thing seemingly, so surely Brexiween or Hallowexit

[PFVA]

Btw, i was thinking, this means the UK will participate in the EU elections nxt month. Is the UKIP going to join the common front of nationalists that are campaigning for the EU Parliament? It includes the nationalists from Italy, Finland, German, and i'm not sure if France or Austria, or both. They are now defending not exiting the EU but changing it from the within.

[KlaxonCow]

Is the UKIP going to join the common front of nationalists that are campaigning for the EU Parliament?

Yes. They almost immediately declared their preparedness to fight the European elections - having, apparently, already raised enough funds to leaflet every single household in the UK before this was announced, so they presumed it was coming well in advanced - with almost an air of "told you so" glee. And will probably happily join - or lead - any European Parliamentary group that also wants to create some havoc with them.

https://twitter.com/GerardBattenMEP/sta ... 2869540864

[PFVA]

As far as i know the italians (Salvini) are the ones leading. The ones in the group are not in favour of any Exits. They seem to have realized that a Nationalist European Union is better than Nationalist Individual countries. But it's not all the nationalist parties across Europe. The Polish nationalist did not want to join the group because Salvini favours an alliance with Putin's Russia, and the Polish don't agree with that. The Hungarian nationalist PM may join as he has just been kicked out of the group of Conservative and Popular Parties but it's not certain yet.

Basically they are as united and divided as everybody else.

[merman]

Btw, i was thinking, this means the UK will participate in the EU elections nxt month. Is the UKIP going to join the common front of nationalists that are campaigning for the EU Parliament? It includes the nationalists from Italy, Finland, German, and i'm not sure if France or Austria, or both. They are now defending not exiting the EU but changing it from the within.

If the UK does NOT participate in the EU Parliament elections, Brexit Day becomes the 1st of June with or without a deal.

"Taking back control", aren't we? Theresa Maybe now has to put through the Privy Council motion to officially "activate" the EU elections, even though she didn't want to hold them.

We now have UKIP and the Brexit Party. And here in Lincolnshire it gets even more confusing for the local elections, with many candidates deserting UKIP and standing as independent/in new right-wing pro-Brexit "parties".

Support is draining away from UKIP. Why vote for them when you can vote Tory and get a bungled Brexit?

[KlaxonCow]

Well, yeah, that's the fundamental philosophical problem with nationalism / racism / hate-based ideologies.

As it's built on the notion that everyone else is a subhuman piece of shit. Therefore, this makes cooperating with each other - and particularly "out-groups" from other nations - somewhat impossible for them.

Case in point. It's not only UKIP that's going to be contesting the Euro elections. But also Farage's new "Brexit Party". So unless they can get over their splintering disagreements for 5 minutes and avoid going head-to-head in the same constituencies, then that'll potentially split the Brexit vote.

[PFVA]

This European Commission last date is the 31st of October.
Then new Commission starts Nov 1st and it will be based on the results of this election in May.
Wouldn't the pro-Brexit parties have the hope to make a difference on the elections and be able to obtain a more favorable offter from the EU in terms of Brexit?

[merman]

This European Commission last date is the 31st of October.
Then new Commission starts Nov 1st and it will be based on the results of this election in May.
Wouldn't the pro-Brexit parties have the hope to make a difference on the elections and be able to obtain a more favorable offter from the EU in terms of Brexit?

That would involve logic and rational thought.
The "Brexit Party" has formed on the basis that there has been a "betrayal" of the people who voted Leave.

Farage claiming he is going to "pick up a rifle and be on the front line" is dangerous rhetoric.
And choosing the sister of Jacob-Rees Mogg (extreme Brexiteer) as a Brexit Party candidate demonstrates that they do not represent the "people".

[tufty]

Farage claiming he is going to "pick up a rifle and be on the front line" is dangerous rhetoric.

On the other hand, it does mean we can shoot him

[Cloudane]

"No more Mr Nice Guy" he says, as if he wasn't a complete twat before. Grim... the far right is rising

[OX mkII]

That big fucking loan we gave to Ireland years ago to save their economy - we want it back now were brexiting the fuck out, so we'll just pass on that debt to the EU thanx bye

[KlaxonCow]

That's not how money works.

[gilesgoat]

That big fucking loan we gave to Ireland years ago to save their economy - we want it back now were brexiting the fuck out, so we'll just pass on that debt to the EU thanx bye

No that's the point YOU are leaving, Ireland is still staying in EU, if you'd be staying there's a chance ( very little ) you could see that money back, now you are leaving you can kiss that money bye bye