EU referendum are you in or out

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EU Are you IN or OUT

In
98
77%
Out
21
17%
Undecided (shake it all about)
8
6%
 
Total votes: 127

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merman wrote: Two points on that.
1. Eight days after Jo Cox died, Farage crowed that the Leave campaign had won "without a shot being fired"
2. Farage recently said he would "pick up a rifle and be on the frontline" if Brexit didn't happen.

In this context, making him look foolish by throwing a dairy-based beverage over him is harmless in the grand scheme of things. I see it as a legitimate protest against someone who has lied and cheated democracy, as well as made a lot of money while claiming to be a "man of the people".*
How does it make him look foolish? If he had spilt milkshake over himself then he might look foolish, but he didn't.

Is he foolish for having insufficient security? Did Jo Cox look foolish with blood spurting from her chest?

All it does is make him look more like the victim that he's been trying to portray himself as. Well fucking done.
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KlaxonCow wrote:… by tradition, the leader gets the top job of Prime Minister or Leader of the Opposition (because it'd be weird to have a split leadership, though I don't believe there's technically any law that mandates it, should any party decide one day to be weird, it is allowed but just never happens. It'd be like the owner and founder of a company shunning being the CEO to be a janitor instead. Nothing strictly says they couldn't, but it would be rather weird if they did).
Have you heard of the Green Party? It has shared leadership.
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Baggypants wrote:The conservatives will vote Boris because being the PM at the moment is political suicide and they want BoJo dead. A no-deal Brexit will be the perfect thing to bury him with.
Not to say you're wrong or anything, I came across an interesting article that brought to mind your interesting point.
What happens next with Brexit, now that Theresa May is resigning?
It suggests that the EU/Brexit will claim a PM if they don't being about Brexit, which will be a hard Brexit.
Then something about Boris stating his country will be leaving on the current deadline. And previously having said the way to get a good deal is to be prepared for a no-deal.
But he's a knob and those are soundbites. Boris could be a good sacrificial knob to rip the plaster off quickly. Picking at it slowely isn't working.
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Little stoned kiwi wrote:Boris could be a good sacrificial knob to rip the plaster off quickly. Picking at it slowely isn't working.
But nobody has even begun to pull the plaster off yet. They are still arguing over how to pull it, amidst further confusion over when and even whether.
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Indeed, it must be remembered that, in all of this, all that May was trying to pass was the Withdrawal Agreement. The terms upon which we're leaving.

We haven't even touched future trading relations or anything like that yet.

To borrow a Churchillian quote: "This is not the end. This is not the beginning of the end. This is only the end of the beginning". And, in this case, it's not even the end of the beginning either, as they haven't even agreed on that either! Because we're three years on now and, really, in no more advanced position about what we're actually doing than we were 5 minutes after the referendum result was announced.

This has been a gargantuan farce of unprecedented proportions so far, and it hasn't even begun to begin.
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BoJo - broken most of the Ten Commandments
Dominic Raab - didn't know the importance of the port of Dover, said he couldn't vote for the deal he helped negotiate and then voted for it
Gove - incompetent frog in human clothing
Esther McVey - TV presenter who thinks Universal Credit is a good idea
Andrea Leadsom - did such a bad job of running her campaign last time, seems to want to repeat that mistake
Rory Stewart - might actually be a good candidate, but is a political non-entity
Rees-Mogg - pompous git

And what other rabble puts themselves forward.

"Taking back control" now means putting the future leader of our country into the voting hands of 120,000 Tory Party members.
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Hammond on Marr just sent out a lightly coded message that Parliament would force a GE rather than go over the edge. Hmm, where have I read that previously :)

All Jez's dream come true, the fool. The end-result would depend on who exactly becomes the next Tory leader but I'll stick my neck out here and forecast Labour receding as reward for facing all ways and the centre rising for clarity on remain.
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merman wrote: Gove - incompetent frog in human clothing
What exactly has he fucked-up at environment? Do you know what you're talking about?

If little else you can credit him with knifing Boris the last time.
Esther McVey - TV presenter who thinks Universal Credit is a good idea
Everyone does in principle, it's the implementation that's controversial. Did you not get the memo?
Rees-Mogg - pompous git
Rees-Mogg won't be applying for the job.
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"It'll be like picking the nicest piece of carrot out of a pile of sick"
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There's always that Javid fellow. He even seems to be relatively sane. Shame he's a darkie, really.
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Personally I wasn't keen on his revoking of Shamima Begum's citizenship. It reeked of populist posturing, and then her baby died. Security risk? Bullshit.

Attempting to criminalise Kurdish YPJ anti-ISIS volunteers.

I'd call Momentum a few things but "neo-Fascist" wouldn't figure amongst them.

But you're probably correct... Baroness Warsi: "he should read what these people are saying, because however much he dog-whistles, however much he panders to the right of our party, sadly the right of our party still believe he’s far too Muslim to be leader of the party"
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If it was like that all day abstention will win by a landslide:

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(I took that at 11:00am when i went to vote)
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This video is worth a watch
interview is one of the few that seemed to land on Farage



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McVey outdid herself today with invisible borders while Raab declared himself a details person :roll: you couldn't make this kind of rubbish up
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PFVA wrote:If it was like that all day abstention will win by a landslide:

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(I took that at 11:00am when i went to vote)
Here it's illegal to take photos inside the polling station, even with phones, and there are signs up saying so, is it legal in Portugal?
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I wasn't inside the polling station. I was in the café upstairs which has a bit glass wall over the stadium where the poll station is. In anyway as far as i know it's not ilegal taking pictures of a polling station. It's ilegal to take of a person up close without their permission anywhere even in the street.
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