EU referendum are you in or out

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EU Are you IN or OUT

In
98
77%
Out
21
17%
Undecided (shake it all about)
8
6%
 
Total votes: 127

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I am starting to feel really concerned for the turns events are taking ...

In Italy the government has fallen, now it seems there's only "one possible outcome" and it's that Lega will merge with the party of Berlusconi, if that happens is going to be 'the worst of the worst', it will be like to return to the times of Mussolini and the "technical" ( i.e. formally never recognized but practically happening ) death of democracy.

S. is talking about "changing the laws so he can have more powers" it's going to become a sort of "1 party and 1/2 dictatorship" :(

Italy is going to be a place where "you really don't want to be", stay away as much as you can from it !

Despite all that is already happened I continue to hear lot - too many - people supporting Lega, they still think "they are the only ones that can do things" ( like to say that Farage is your only savior of the UK the only one that can fix things, yo figure ).

I'd dare to say "as an external observer and someone that been away from Italy about 15 years" things have changed in a dramatic ways, that's really not the Italy I was born in and what I left, what I am seeing now it's like a place I never tought it could become something like this.

And I still have not a good idea "how we got there" but I suppose it's probably "the final collapse of a system that can no longer 'support' itself".

My bro says in Italy we have 3 things that "no matter what and no matter what government they NEVER managed and never will to sort out" : Mafia, Corruption and Fiscal evasion ( I'd add "perverted justice" as well ).

And it's totally true, "the whole political system is someway based on those 4 things" apparently there's frakload of money in Italy always ending into the same hands and never going where it really should be going and nobody ever managed to sort that out.

What can I say ? Nobody really knows what to do or what could be done, not in a place where "90% of things never are/go the way they really should be" but anyway "I've been there so many times it's old news", just the same things going over and over always in the same ways.

Everyone is waiting for "the big crash" many are kinda wishing for it "to happen soon and happen real good so maybe we can re-start anew again from the ashes" but it's not going to be like that, it never works like that.

Anyway "UK is going like this", "Italy is going like that" , "USA has Mr. Toupee" ... ... I wish there would be "somewhere safer" one can escape , hopefully they'll forget about Wales for a while.

Until the revolts of the farmers or such ... or maybe they'll make everyone and the sheep vanish and pretend it never happened.
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If you think this level of xenophobia is bad, wait until all the climate refugees start flooding in in the next 10 years or so as parts of the earth start to become uninhabitable...
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Ollie wrote:
merman wrote:The Leave campaign never mentioned No Deal - in fact there are multiple references in official literature and interviews where the aim is to negotiate a deal BEFORE triggering Article 50. Dodgy Dave and Toxic Theresa messed that up.
I don't think the EU would have allowed that. But certainly working out what we wanted from a deal and getting Parliament to agree to it in principle before triggering A50 would have been a good idea.
Article 50 did not have to be triggered before a deal, the day after the vote or when Theresa decided to.
Of course the EU would have negotiated a deal - it's in their interests to keep trade flowing and borders as open as possible.

Fact is, it's the Tories who have thrown up the red lines, the Tories that decided voting to Leave meant leaving the Single Market AND the Customs Union, and the Tories who voted down the Withdrawal Agreement Theresa cobbled together. Three times.
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In the meantime in a quiet corner of Western Europe the new strike of truck drivers of dangerous substances including gas and diesel is about to start. August is a traditional month for vacation and apparently it seems that people need their cars even more on vacation than when they are working.

The worse i think is some people who are stocking on gas and diesel in fuel cans. Temps are going up this coming week and fires aren't unusual. Hope we don't have big accidents with that.
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Will you guys have internet after Brexit?
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Little stoned kiwi wrote:Will you guys have internet after Brexit?
Yes but we'll have to put the URLs of any sites we want to visit onto punched cards and send them off to GCHQ for batch processing.
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That's another curly one. Will the GCHQ still be in five-eyes?
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Little stoned kiwi wrote:Will you guys have internet after Brexit?
Oh, yeah, we'll have Internet.

No food and medicine.

But plenty of Internet.
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KlaxonCow wrote:plenty of Internet.
Of course. Boris downloaded it last week.
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They have form when it comes this:

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KlaxonCow wrote:
Little stoned kiwi wrote:Will you guys have internet after Brexit?
Oh, yeah, we'll have Internet.

No food and medicine.

But plenty of Internet.
Nah we'll have plenty of GMO food and chlorinated chicken and all that rubbish they can't even sell there specialities from USA sold "at special prices" by "your friend with the toupee" ...

Medicines ? Naah .. everyone is healthy and strong and with a bulldog stance in UK !! You don't need those !

Internet ? But sure ! Porn will make you pass throught times of no food and medicines better than what medicines and food will make you pass throught times of no porn !

And I am sure USA can't wait to sell UK "all the best they have" and buy "all the best UK has to offer" at so really nice prices and quantities that the UK economy will just burst with incredible profits like never seen before oh no sure they'll never even compare to what EU was able to generate.

And of course all those Monsanto seeds for the UK farming ! How can you live without those and their patents ?

.. when you will not be able any more to plant one "original local UK potato" in your house garden because that will violate Monsanto patents and a storm of lawyers will come over you to destroy your garden, your house and your life.

.. as they do in USA ..

Of course "if you want to commerce with USA you'll have to agree with USA rules" ...

As I said "declared or not does not matter", effectively "we are living in times of war" and we have to be going on according to that ... "watch your back and forward all the time and trust no one" .. "try to avoid the worst" .. :?
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Porn?

No. No porn for you, unless you pay for a "porn licence" from the government.

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/uk-porn ... rification

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KlaxonCow wrote:Porn?

No. No porn for you, unless you pay for a "porn licence" from the government.

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/uk-porn ... rification

Take back control!!
All you have to do is to be sure that for each pr0n pic there are 4 pics of cats so 'less than 1/3 of' is pr0n :wink:

Oh don't make me start of 'what of those politicians are going to get money' from that company that does the verification SW that turns out to be the same that owns 90% of the online pr0n sites.
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Won't this only be relevant to people in the UK viewing sites hosted in the UK?
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