EU referendum are you in or out

[KlaxonCow]

This too shall pass.



(I love how they're splattered in paint and there's a stack of smashed TVs, betraying how many times they had to keep doing it until they got that perfect "one take", where it all went flawlessly.)

It is said an Eastern monarch once charged his wise men to invent him a sentence, to be ever in view, and which should be true and appropriate in all times and situations. They presented him the words: "And this, too, shall pass away."

[noodles]

Boris: we want a deal without the backstop


Really? What credible solution for the Irish border do you have then? Because that's why the backstop was part of the Withdrawal Agreement Theresa May negotiated (with the help of three different Brexit Secretaries).

How about the reunification of Ireland then ? Wouldn't the mad bombings (if any) only happen in Ireland ?

[Cloudane]

The sad reality is, history repeats itself. Every few generations - people care and acknowledge what their parents and grandparents lived through... once it gets to great grandparents it starts to get distant and doubts are raised over whether their stories are legit or if they knew what they were talking about. I thought the internet would fix this, it'd be the great human memory there for all to see - instead it's a breeding ground for things like holocaust denial.

"Those who don't learn history are doomed to repeat it", the thing is, a great number of people (probably a majority) either don't learn history or don't believe it could possibly have happened. And we've probably had this discussion over and over for thousands of years. We've probably had "we're such a mature, civilised society now - there couldn't possibly be another massive war or other human disaster/atrocity" uttered countless times in the past.

[VNVObit]

Boris: we want a deal without the backstop


Really? What credible solution for the Irish border do you have then? Because that's why the backstop was part of the Withdrawal Agreement Theresa May negotiated (with the help of three different Brexit Secretaries).

How about the reunification of Ireland then ? Wouldn't the mad bombings (if any) only happen in Ireland ?

oh the "what's the problem with people dying because of actions so long as it's not in England" approach

[merman]

Boris: we want a deal without the backstop


Really? What credible solution for the Irish border do you have then? Because that's why the backstop was part of the Withdrawal Agreement Theresa May negotiated (with the help of three different Brexit Secretaries).

How about the reunification of Ireland then ? Wouldn't the mad bombings (if any) only happen in Ireland ?

Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson represents the Conservative & Unionist Party of Great Britain. That means it doesn't want to give up control of Northern Ireland - especially when his Government is propped up by the dodgy deal with the Democratic Unionist Party.

Angela Merkel laid a trap and Johnson walked into it. "30 days to present an alternative to the backstop" - he has none, there hasn't been any credible solutions put forward in the last 800+ days since the referendum.

And now Macron says the backstop is an "indispensable" part of any deal.

Oh, and all this piffle from de Pfeffel is trying to shift the blame onto the EU in the event of No Deal - when it's the Tory red lines (over freedom of movement and membership of the Customs Union) that are preventing the deal.

Priti Patel announces freedom of movement to and from the UK for EU citizens would end on the 1st of November in the even of No Deal - which is clearly not going to happen, according to leading immigration lawyers.

[Little stoned kiwi]

Give it to Scotland.

[gilesgoat]

Give it to Scotland.

Isn't Trump going to buy it ?

/me takes coat

[tufty]

How about the reunification of Ireland then ? Wouldn't the mad bombings (if any) only happen in Ireland ?

Possibly. Sectarian violence in Northern Ireland is unlikely to stop any time soon. However, the ones who would be properly angry would be the unionists, and the target of their anger would be Westminster. They're just as fucking dangerously mental as the republicans, perhaps more so. The Good Friday Agreement didn't put an end to the problems in Northern Ireland. The troubles are still there, merely resting, just under the surface. IMO, the reunification of Ireland is almost certainly the only thing that can force the two communities to live side by side in the long term. Eventually, the Republicans will have nothing to fight for, the Loyalists nothing to defend, all that will remain is tit-for-tat killings and internecine vendettas. The paramilitaries will eventually die out, stripped of their political "respectability" they will be recognised as the criminal thugs they always have been. But the short and medium term will still be bloody, and that violence will almost certainly spill over to the mainland.

A decent read : https://www.thedetail.tv/articles/the-c ... -agreement

[zip accident]

I don't know if this is optimism or pessimism or dark humour.

I Like to think of it as optimism. There will be people, and eventually they will be free.

[gilesgoat]

I don't know if this is optimism or pessimism or dark humour.

I Like to think of it as optimism. There will be people, and eventually they will be free.

But we'll be dead .. and badly

[zip accident]

I don't know if this is optimism or pessimism or dark humour.

I Like to think of it as optimism. There will be people, and eventually they will be free.

But we'll be dead .. and badly

Unless someone comes up with imortality for everyone really quickly, we'll be dead in a hundred years from now whatever happens.

[Rubisco]

Boris: we want a deal without the backstop


Really? What credible solution for the Irish border do you have then? Because that's why the backstop was part of the Withdrawal Agreement Theresa May negotiated (with the help of three different Brexit Secretaries).

How about the reunification of Ireland then ? Wouldn't the mad bombings (if any) only happen in Ireland ?

Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson represents the Conservative & Unionist Party of Great Britain. That means it doesn't want to give up control of Northern Ireland - especially when his Government is propped up by the dodgy deal with the Democratic Unionist Party.

Angela Merkel laid a trap and Johnson walked into it. "30 days to present an alternative to the backstop" - he has none, there hasn't been any credible solutions put forward in the last 800+ days since the referendum.

And now Macron says the backstop is an "indispensable" part of any deal.

Oh, and all this piffle from de Pfeffel is trying to shift the blame onto the EU in the event of No Deal - when it's the Tory red lines (over freedom of movement and membership of the Customs Union) that are preventing the deal.

Priti Patel announces freedom of movement to and from the UK for EU citizens would end on the 1st of November in the even of No Deal - which is clearly not going to happen, according to leading immigration lawyers.

At what point does it become non-racist to mock a man's foreign ancestry? Is it OK because he's posh? A tory? Rich? White?

[Ratsoap]

Boris: we want a deal without the backstop


Really? What credible solution for the Irish border do you have then? Because that's why the backstop was part of the Withdrawal Agreement Theresa May negotiated (with the help of three different Brexit Secretaries).

How about the reunification of Ireland then ? Wouldn't the mad bombings (if any) only happen in Ireland ?

Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson represents the Conservative & Unionist Party of Great Britain. That means it doesn't want to give up control of Northern Ireland - especially when his Government is propped up by the dodgy deal with the Democratic Unionist Party.

Angela Merkel laid a trap and Johnson walked into it. "30 days to present an alternative to the backstop" - he has none, there hasn't been any credible solutions put forward in the last 800+ days since the referendum.

And now Macron says the backstop is an "indispensable" part of any deal.

Oh, and all this piffle from de Pfeffel is trying to shift the blame onto the EU in the event of No Deal - when it's the Tory red lines (over freedom of movement and membership of the Customs Union) that are preventing the deal.

Priti Patel announces freedom of movement to and from the UK for EU citizens would end on the 1st of November in the even of No Deal - which is clearly not going to happen, according to leading immigration lawyers.

At what point does it become non-racist to mock a man's foreign ancestry? Is it OK because he's posh? A tory? Rich? White?

Always punch up, never punch down.

[Rubisco]

At what point does it become non-racist to mock a man's foreign ancestry? Is it OK because he's posh? A tory? Rich? White?

Always punch up, never punch down.

Eh? When some jobless skinhead makes monkey noises towards a millionaire black footballer is he punching down?

[tufty]

At what point does it become non-racist to mock a man's foreign ancestry? Is it OK because he's posh? A tory? Rich? White?

When that man lives on racist rhetoric, perhaps. When he's described blacks as having "watermelon smiles". When he's scared up the leave campaign with rhetoric about Turkey's "imminent" entry into the EU, immigrants, etc. At that point, one might reasonably consider it acceptable to point out the inherent hypocrisy of his position.