EU referendum are you in or out

[snaff]

If anything bad was going to happen it would have been priced into the markets already and it hasn't so it'll be fine.

[KlaxonCow]

If anything bad was going to happen it would have been priced into the markets already and it hasn't so it'll be fine.

The markets are omniscient, then?

They infallibly know when bad things are going to happen in the future, using their ever-perfect magical psychic powers?

Hmm, I guess that's why they completely foresaw and avoided the 2018 Financial Crisis, and nothing bad ever happened then or since.

And there was me thinking that a complex interconnected web of independent systems, based on the impulsive purchasing and investment whims of the fickle human animal, would inevitably have to be an intrinsically Chaotic system - of the mathematical sense, iterative and sensitive to initial conditions - which would mean that it's INHERENTLY UNPREDICTABLE by its very nature. The fundamental mathematical characteristic of all Chaotic systems, due to the inherent impossibility of ever being able - no matter the technology - to achieve "infinite precision" in measurement, as the tiniest flap of the butterfly's wings can totally blow up into a prediction-screwing tornado.

But, no, economists are omniscient gods. Because I like money. Such an infallible line of reasoning you've presented me.

Well, I'm glad that's been settled, without the need for any reasonable thought nor mental scrutiny at any point. Who needs the effort of "being correct" when there's not-thinking and convenience to be considered? Yes, just keep saving that grey matter until death - because, after you're dead and your brain ceases to function, that's when you'll really be needing it. Not now, whilst alive and there's a complicated reality to negotiate. Why on Earth would you bother using your brain on complicated things, when you can waste it all on football scores and soap opera plots, right?

[zip accident]

If anything bad was going to happen it would have been priced into the markets already and it hasn't so it'll be fine.

The markets are omniscient, then?

They infallibly know when bad things are going to happen in the future, using their ever-perfect magical psychic powers?

Yes, according to Thatcher, "Market Forces" are the hand of the Christian God, omnipotent, omniscient, omnibenevolent. It's the next big form of Calvinism, the poor are poor because they are evil, the meek shall inherit the Earth because they are not good enough to go to Heaven.

It's cobblers' of course. However, it's totally like Brexit, including in that any scams that make you rich are legitimate (because if you get rich you must be worthy) so long as you don't get caught..

[Harlequin]

Matt Hancock is at least trying to explain his apparent prorogation U-turn. When he said that, "A policy on Brexit to prorogue parliament would mean the end of the Conservative party as a serious party of government," and complained that it went against everything that war veterans "who waded on to those beaches fought and died for", adding that he "will not have it", he was referring to a theoretical prorogation completely unlike what is actually happening. What starts on Monday week is something entirely different because MPs will be sitting in the House for a few days before it.

[Cloudane]

Here's an interesting - and slightly chilling - video / article from Eddie Mair on LBC

Can't watch right now but I was listening the other day (first time in ages, as someone else aptly put it, it's often "Listening to Britain's Cunts") and yeah it was very interesting, they kept replaying one of the twats who was standing for leadership (think it was Hancock?) saying it would be a terrible affront to democracy and he simply WOULD NOT STAND for it. "Where's your resignation then if you're listening?"



Edit: didn't finish thread before posting, so irrelevant, sorry

[snaff]

If anything bad was going to happen it would have been priced into the markets already and it hasn't so it'll be fine.

The markets are omniscient, then?

They infallibly know when bad things are going to happen in the future, using their ever-perfect magical psychic powers?

Hmm, I guess that's why they completely foresaw and avoided the 2018 Financial Crisis, and nothing bad ever happened then or since.

The 2008 financial crisis was caused by central banks. Assets not under their control didn't have a crisis. Since then your favourite the ECB has doubled down on that policy and is fuelling the next chapter of the '2008' crisis. Most recently their negative interest rate policy is thieving from pensioners to fund their bankrupt ideology. Over here the BoE's favourite unproductive companies are going to get wacked. Many productive companies haven't participated in that phony run-up and besides getting heavy selling when the rest go they're going to be fine. I don't see that as a crisis.

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[tufty]

The 2008 financial crisis was caused by central banks. Assets not under their control didn't have a crisis.

No. No it was not.

[Dio]

I certainly don't remember Lehman Brothers being run by the Federal Reserve.

[Rubisco]

Boris: we want a deal without the backstop


Really? What credible solution for the Irish border do you have then? Because that's why the backstop was part of the Withdrawal Agreement Theresa May negotiated (with the help of three different Brexit Secretaries).

How about the reunification of Ireland then ? Wouldn't the mad bombings (if any) only happen in Ireland ?

Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson represents the Conservative & Unionist Party of Great Britain. That means it doesn't want to give up control of Northern Ireland - especially when his Government is propped up by the dodgy deal with the Democratic Unionist Party.

Angela Merkel laid a trap and Johnson walked into it. "30 days to present an alternative to the backstop" - he has none, there hasn't been any credible solutions put forward in the last 800+ days since the referendum.

And now Macron says the backstop is an "indispensable" part of any deal.

Oh, and all this piffle from de Pfeffel is trying to shift the blame onto the EU in the event of No Deal - when it's the Tory red lines (over freedom of movement and membership of the Customs Union) that are preventing the deal.

Priti Patel announces freedom of movement to and from the UK for EU citizens would end on the 1st of November in the even of No Deal - which is clearly not going to happen, according to leading immigration lawyers.

At what point does it become non-racist to mock a man's foreign ancestry? Is it OK because he's posh? A tory? Rich? White?

NOWHERE WAS I MOCKING HIS ANCESTRY.
I quoted his full name because he uses "Boris" to help portray himself as this bumbling, loveable fellow who doesn't do bad things...

The fact that he is now trying to suspend Parliament proves he should not be in power.

So what you're saying is that I'm fake news and you're the least racist person there is anywhere in the world

[merman]

Rubisco, let it go. You read something me into my post that simply wasn't there.
And I am not racist. I would hate Alexander whatever race he was, because of how he acts.

I see the Leave liars can't help lying.
Dominic Raab claiming an extension to January would cost a billion extra a month.

Fact Check says - wrong. It's actually less than £770 million a month, money that we would have paid the EU anyway as members.
And the longer we stay in the less we owe in the so-called divorce bill (already down to £33 billion).

[Deckard]

Sorry but this really got my goat - Fuck me someone should be shot from the tory government over HS2 - seven year late and way way over budget and great for the rich fuckers that can afford it from major cities - plough some decent money into local transport FFS !!

[F-ZeroOne]

Sorry but this really got my goat - Fuck me someone should be shot from the tory government over HS2 - seven year late and way way over budget and great for the rich fuckers that can afford it from major cities - plough some decent money into local transport FFS !!

Ahem:

http://www.yakyak.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=88312

Thread specifically for discussing HS2 as previous comments about the subject in this thread were threatening to... be the wrong kind of leaves?

[KlaxonCow]

Rather uncouth of Rees Mogg to be adopting such a poor seating posture, no?

Plebs slouch. Sit up straight, Jacob!

Nanny would be so disappointed in you.

[Cloudane]

Rather uncouth of Rees Mogg to be adopting such a poor seating posture, no?

Plebs slouch. Sit up straight, Jacob!

Nanny would be so disappointed in you.