EU referendum are you in or out

[tufty]

Patel is sickening. Atrocious, she makes Thatcher look like a saint.

[tufty]

And in other hilarious news...

In an extraordinary twist to the Brexit saga, UK small businesses are being told by advisers working for the Department for International Trade (DIT) that the best way to circumvent border issues and VAT problems that have been piling up since 1 January is to register new firms within the EU single market, from where they can distribute their goods far more freely.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... shop-in-eu

[skab]

And in other hilarious news...

In an extraordinary twist to the Brexit saga, UK small businesses are being told by advisers working for the Department for International Trade (DIT) that the best way to circumvent border issues and VAT problems that have been piling up since 1 January is to register new firms within the EU single market, from where they can distribute their goods far more freely.

Which is a great thing, since it creates new jobs. In the EU.

Many businesses are already thinking about opening new EU distribution centres etc., which of course means less work for those in the UK. But, who cares, take back control and make Britain great again!

[F-ZeroOne]

But think how sad the fish they serve in those European business centres fish will be compared to ours!

[KlaxonCow]

Yes, all those fish in the Mediterranean must be so miserable, as they sun themselves in crystal clear blue waters, desperately wishing that they were British.

[(o)(o)]

So the local to me Cheshire Cheese company has been fucked over by Brexit so now for their exports they are being told to... set up an operation in the EU!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55786974

"Free" trade my arse...

And the MD of the company I'm involved with is not best pleased.. sends a lot of parcels to Ireland, usually direct to the PO piece of cake - now 30 minute phone calls with DHL and NINE forms to fill in... For a business that tries to cut margins to help the customer and does philanthropic work (many are schools who already have very tight budgets - some just trying to say afloat), this is nasty nasty nasty, obviously cannot make a loss so costs can only be passed on to the customer ... no gains for anyone only grief and worsening education opportunities..

What utter, contemptible fucking cunts this government are !!

[gilesgoat]

Yes, all those fish in the Mediterranean must be so miserable, as they sun themselves in crystal clear blue waters, desperately wishing that they were British.

I have to break this dream ... MAYBE they REALLY wish they were British.

Mediterranean .. "crystal clear blue waters" .. MAYBE "in some place" ( postcards ? ) yet probably still quite polluted.

"ALL THOSE FISH" ... WHAT FISH ? There's almost NO fish left in the Mediterranean !!!

That's why .. many Italian fishermen seems so often, poor guys so hard to see , confused about where the Italian waters end and where the Hroatian/Slovenian waters begin ... that's why to help them see and hear clearly when they cross the border the Hroatian/Slovenian coast guard shoots with machine guns at them .. you know "audible alert"

You don't see this in the news any more because "it's so routine it's so normal".

Mediterranea is over fished, over polluted, over crap, algy, climate change, whatever, there's little fish left in it ...

[gilesgoat]

So the local to me Cheshire Cheese company has been fucked over by Brexit so now for their exports they are being told to... set up an operation in the EU!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55786974

"Free" trade my arse...

And the MD of the company I'm involved with is not best pleased.. sends a lot of parcels to Ireland, usually direct to the PO piece of cake - now 30 minute phone calls with DHL and NINE forms to fill in... For a business that tries to cut margins to help the customer and does philanthropic work (many are schools who already have very tight budgets - some just trying to say afloat), this is nasty nasty nasty, obviously cannot make a loss so costs can only be passed on to the customer ... no gains for anyone only grief and worsening education opportunities..

What utter, contemptible fucking cunts this government are !!

Correct me where I am wrong .. wasn't all this "fantastic last minute deal" supposed to have all of this sorted ? At least for goods NOT people ?

Yet I keep seeing more and more websites I was used to with messages like this one :

"We apologise that we are experiencing port and border delays in the UK which are impacting delivery times for some orders. We are working closely with our logistics partners to ensure that we minimise any delay to our customers. We will keep this page, and our social media channels, up to date with any further developments.

Now the UK has left the EU with a trade deal, our working group of representatives from across the business will continue to assess and plan to mitigate any business risks which could directly affect our ability to service our customers and impact our operations."

Well .. looks like the "tax heaven" idea won't work that well ...

We'll see how many business, those that are not already, will move to Ireland ?

[(o)(o)]

So the local to me Cheshire Cheese company has been fucked over by Brexit so now for their exports they are being told to... set up an operation in the EU!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55786974

"Free" trade my arse...

And the MD of the company I'm involved with is not best pleased.. sends a lot of parcels to Ireland, usually direct to the PO piece of cake - now 30 minute phone calls with DHL and NINE forms to fill in... For a business that tries to cut margins to help the customer and does philanthropic work (many are schools who already have very tight budgets - some just trying to say afloat), this is nasty nasty nasty, obviously cannot make a loss so costs can only be passed on to the customer ... no gains for anyone only grief and worsening education opportunities..

What utter, contemptible fucking cunts this government are !!

Correct me where I am wrong .. wasn't all this "fantastic last minute deal" supposed to have all of this sorted ? At least for goods NOT people ?

Lying comes naturally to Tories

Well .. looks like the "tax heaven" idea won't work that well ...

They don't give a shit about goods, it's 'Singapore' style economic hub they want with freeports, ie. unaccountable pirate stores where the super rich can stash their ill gotten gains obscured, without proper declaration or tax to pay.. I expect literally they are hoping to draw DIRTY laundered money from Singapore. Also the Crown Dependencies are free to run wild as tax havens as they no longer have to abide by the EU Tax Code of Conduct..

The literally don't give a shit about goods and businesses selling goods going under...

BTW freeports.. these are not regular 'bank safe' type vaults.. some are made to look like Jewelry boxes I kid you not.. check this article https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... super-rich

FUKIN SCUM!!

[merman]

The EU has already moved to add British colonies/dependencies to its “tax haven blacklist”, preventing EU businesses from hiding money/assets there. That will have a significant effect on the Channel Islands, greater than when the UK closed the Jersey postage loophole.

And in yet another Brexit “benefit”, Mastercard and Barclaycard are increasing their minimum payment option on credit cards - which was capped by EU legislation.

BBC website also highlighting many examples of ordinary people being hit with extra customs charges/cancelled deliveries because of Brexit. And the “smooth trade” with Northern Ireland isn’t working well either...

[gilesgoat]

From the little I read around, if I understood correctly, we lost the "convention about the VAT in EU" so now imported ( and I suppose exported ) goods from ( to ) EU which value is above 135 pounds are subjected to 20% VAT when they enter UK.

Therefore "everything imported >135% pounds is now 20% more expensive", so it seems if I read it correctly.

[The ghost of raids past]

From the little I read around, if I understood correctly, we lost the "convention about the VAT in EU" so now imported ( and I suppose exported ) goods from ( to ) EU which value is above 135 pounds are subjected to 20% VAT when they enter UK.

Therefore "everything imported >135% pounds is now 20% more expensive", so it seems if I read it correctly.

Technically wrong. You should be exempt from the EU VAT tax and charged the UK Vat Rate. So if you buy from Germany then the price should have the German Vat removed and the UK vat charged on the non Vat added value

Not sure if thats actually happening though.

[Rhythm]

People: "Hey guys, can we please make it cheaper and easier for EU citizens who've chosen the UK for work, friendships, families over the past few years to settle here?"

UK Govt: "Nah. Can we instead suggest we pay people to leave?"

Absolutely fucking insane. I realise there must be a ton of caveats in that "resettlement" deal but from where I'm sitting it appears that if you're an EU citizen who's lived here for years you have the choice of:
- pay to deal with the shitty admin of "settled status" OR
- take a cash deal to leave

Fuck sake. This shitty little island has never felt like home (despite being born here) but this is beyond anything I've seen out of our lot

[WiteWulf]

Absolutely, couldn't believe it when I heard about that "pay to leave" thing. Priti Patel continuing to do everything she possibly can to get all the foreigners out.

[Deckard]

Well my JBL speaker is out of stock with JBL.

Due to heavy delays at the UK border, we are currently not accepting new orders to the UK.

So now i am miffed.