The Dr Who thread

[Snakey]

I want Davros back. He's cool and I think he'd kick ass. The Daleks are too impersonal without him, too stupid. We need an evil genius orchestrating things from a seat, flicking rocker switches and pressing square illuminated push buttons. Maybe The Master, but I always thought Davros was scarier.

Very much enjoyed that episode btw although I do wish they'd ease up on the cleavage shots.

Well, see, these Daleks are Skaro Daleks. Made in Skaro. From Kaleds. Whereas the Daleks in the last series were Earth Daleks. Made in Scotland. From girders. Or something.

At least this is the way I see it. These Daleks used the "void ship" to escape the Time War, and they've been hiding away in there ever since.

So maybe Davros is around somewhere.

[KlaxonCow]

speaking of energy, the daleks barely have enough energy for the odd time travel, where did they power up that void ship/

Erm...it just takes less energy to power a void ship than time travel?

They were using a void ship with an "energy efficiency" sticker on it?

They were also getting the power from the "ghosts" somehow?

Oh, okay. Fuck knows. It's just TV, innit?

[Matrixxx]

I want Davros back. He's cool and I think he'd kick ass. The Daleks are too impersonal without him, too stupid. We need an evil genius orchestrating things from a seat, flicking rocker switches and pressing square illuminated push buttons. Maybe The Master, but I always thought Davros was scarier.

Very much enjoyed that episode btw although I do wish they'd ease up on the cleavage shots.

I thought they had already killed off davros ? and the master is now either a part of the tardis, or transported to gallifrey via the eye in the mcgann film, and is prolly dead now anyway with the rest of the timelords.

Actually, somethig about the mcgann movie I never really *got*. Skaro is the dalek homeword right ? - so he delivers the master there for trial where they reduce him to some kind of living liquid. Question is, if the Doc is the "oncoming storm" why didn't the mind him being on Skaro ! - or even exterminated him along with the master ! IF they ever DO bring the master back, it would help continuity of they use Eric Roberts, I thought he did a fine job

[Snakey]

Who says the Daleks don't have a lot of energy ? Look at all those fucking ships they had last series. You don't get to be one of the most advanced races out there with "no energy".

I thought they had already killed off davros

You thought they'd already killed of the Daleks, too

the mcgann film

Ah. Forget about that. It's a film. It's not real.

[Matrixxx]

Btw - I also think it's davros inside the Genesis ark. He was apparenty (supposidly) killed in GENESIS of the Daleks. Might be a link there ? huh, maybe... Hope to hell it is, but he will need some SERIOUS beefing up to contend with todays doc.

[Matrixxx]

Just found this on "Behind the Sofa"

The Real Time Lady
Music: Eminem
Words: JP 'Age of Steel' Green

Could I have your attention please
May I have your attention please
Will the real Time Lady please stand up
I repeat, will the real Time Lady please stand up...
[We're gonna have a problem here...]

Ya'll act like you never seen a Time Tady before
Scarf all on the floor
Like Mary and Lalla just burst in the door
And started acting all class on the TARDIS floor
She said plot a course
All they got was a divorce (aaaaaah)
It's the return of the...
Im gratified you apprec -
Flip his lid
"He didn't just say what I think he did, did he?"
And Dr. Who said...
"Appreciate it, appreciate it!!!!"
I think that's what he meant
Villainous pirates tangled with him
ticka ticka ticka Time Lady,
"I'm sick of him, look at him
Walkin around, with a robotic parrot
Flyin' to you know who"
"Yeah, but he's so cute though "
Yeah, I probably got a couple of sonic screws to make him lose
But not before the Mentiads try to blow K9s fuse (heheheh)
This Key To Time makes me so confused
But hey, its cool, Tom Baker will make this plot cruise
But what if Baker flips, but what if Baker flips
Mary Tamm will put him straight, in case the Doctor trips
And that's the message that we deliver to little kids
On Saturday night, after Jimmy gets it fixed
Of course they're gonna what quantum physics is
But will they be afraid
They've got sofas, haven't they?
But I think Mary Tamm'll
Will tire of Bakers flannel
But Lalla Ward we hope,
To the TARDIS she'll elope
then there's no reason that two time lords can't get a grope
But Mary Whitehouse, they'll provoke
Let's see how the shows goes, Daleks yet to overthrow

I'm a Time Lady, yes; I'm the Time Lady
All you other companions are just irritating
So wont the real Time Lady please stand up, please stand up, please stand up
Cause I'm the Time Lady, yes, I'm the Time Lady
All you other Romana's are just imitating
So wont the real Time Lady please stand up, please stand up, please stand up

Starting with the Daleks, come on we're all getting bored
Come on Mr. Adams give us something new
You think I want to see scissors, paper, stone
Half of the audience are punks just sniffing glue
But Lalla, if we get John Cleese, wont it be weird
No, not as bad as casting Michael Sheard
But what of Adric, it's worse than I had feared
And Anthony Ainley with his pantomimic beard
Horns of Nimon, Shada, it's getting worse
Think we're getting struck by the Nathan Turner curse
Think he wants to take us off BBC
Or put us against the soaps, they show on ITV
Give me an E-Space arc trilogy
Prove to me, how annoying Adric can be
I'm sick of Alzarian boy groups
All you do is annoy me
Can't wait for Earthshock to destroy you
And there's a million of us just like me
Who think like me, who just want Romana like me
Who dress like me, yes it is quite kinky
And who might be like the Doctor, but not like me.

I'm a Time Lady, yes; I'm the Time Lady
All you other companions are just irritating
So wont the real Time Lady please stand up, please stand up, please stand up
Cause I'm the Time Lady, yes, I'm the Time Lady
All you other Romanas are just imitating
So wont the real Time Lady please stand up, please stand up, please stand up

All the shit you put me through
Bat's bites, spider's stings
Oh Tom you promised me, you'd be my groom
But only as the characters, as we played it
But tell me Tom is it only the scarf that's long
Come on, out with it
You just liked the Paris bit
The one where the Count isn't really a man
But I have a plan
To get some Tharil bum
It's funny that weren't allowed to get a little dirty
Cos when we were together, we got a little flirty
Don't you know that Romana's a Time Virgin
But the thing with the dog, it just ain't workin'
And behind every corridor, an alien is lurking
Should I be working just as Tom's second billing
The TARDIS I am filling, in E Space I am stuck
With K9 and his robotic muck
So will the real Lady please stand up
And put 1 of those fingers on each hand up
And be allowed to take control
So one more time, how does it go?

I'm a Time Lady, yes; I'm the Time Lady
All you other companions are just irritating
So wont the real Time Lady please stand up, please stand up, please stand up
Cause I'm the Time Lady, yes, I'm the Time Lady
All you other Romanas are just imitating
So wont the real Time Lady please stand up, please stand up, please stand up

[Harlequin]

I want Davros back. He's cool and I think he'd kick ass. The Daleks are too impersonal without him, too stupid. We need an evil genius orchestrating things from a seat, flicking rocker switches and pressing square illuminated push buttons. Maybe The Master, but I always thought Davros was scarier.

Oh, please, no! I felt that his presence tended to reduce the Daleks to little more than droids programmed to do his bidding. The Daleks do well enough with their own hierarchy, I think.

Very much enjoyed that episode btw although I do wish they'd ease up on the cleavage shots.

I didn't notice them

speaking of energy, the daleks barely have enough energy for the odd time travel, where did they power up that void ship/

Erm...it just takes less energy to power a void ship than time travel?
They were using a void ship with an "energy efficiency" sticker on it?
They were also getting the power from the "ghosts" somehow?
Oh, okay. Fuck knows. It's just TV, innit?

That's the spirit! It's Telly Power

Any plausible explanation is true, unless the writers feel a need to give us one later on[*][/size]

H.

[*][/size] Although I don't think that I fancy any of this year's writers.
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[GeeZa]

I want Davros back. He's cool and I think he'd kick ass. The Daleks are too impersonal without him, too stupid. We need an evil genius orchestrating things from a seat, flicking rocker switches and pressing square illuminated push buttons. Maybe The Master, but I always thought Davros was scarier.

Very much enjoyed that episode btw although I do wish they'd ease up on the cleavage shots.

Well, see, these Daleks are Skaro Daleks. Made in Skaro. From Kaleds. Whereas the Daleks in the last series were Earth Daleks. Made in Scotland. From girders. Or something.

At least this is the way I see it. These Daleks used the "void ship" to escape the Time War, and they've been hiding away in there ever since.

So maybe Davros is around somewhere.

Oooh yeah I like that idea. Like an escape pod in Elite only this thing escapes the Universe. So they wait it out, biding their time.

Oh, please, no! I felt that his presence tended to reduce the Daleks to little more than droids programmed to do his bidding. The Daleks do well enough with their own hierarchy, I think.

I see what you mean but I saw him more as a 'Creator' type of figure who let loose these things on the Universe but took a very high-level role. And I always thought he had the potential to add an extra dimension of thought to the Dalek's essentially primitive nature. I never really saw the Daleks even in this new era as particularly sophisticated thinkers. But Davros I can see looking at the bigger picture. There is something cool about a father-figure to these monsters who's always looking out for them but from a level that's closer to the Doctor's than some kind of Dalek Emperor type of silly bot-machine that can't articulate its evil in a human way. Shit like that. I think a clever writer could bring him back and make us all go "Aaaaah, niiiice".

[daniel thomas]

Nah, I say let Davros be. He was great in Genesis o/t Daleks, arguably the greatest of all Dr Who serials. But in all his other appearances, he really was reduced to little more than a ranting cameo. Pop in, scream, yell, grampa's off his pills again, and then disappear. He was pretty good in the first episode of Revelation o/t Daleks, but that second part was just a train wreck.

The Pepperpots don't need any help these days. Although they should have different voices, at least for an episode. Something like, oh, I dunno, Crow T. Robot or Tom Servo. Now that would be worth watching - being killed by a Dalek performing his Shatner impression.

[Sir_LANs-a-lot]

The Pepperpots don't need any help these days. Although they should have different voices, at least for an episode.

My vote goes to Noel Coward voice...

..or maybe Terry Thomas..

[arron]

Oh, please, no! I felt that his presence tended to reduce the Daleks to little more than droids programmed to do his bidding. The Daleks do well enough with their own hierarchy, I think.

I see what you mean but I saw him more as a 'Creator' type of figure who let loose these things on the Universe but took a very high-level role. And I always thought he had the potential to add an extra dimension of thought to the Dalek's essentially primitive nature. I never really saw the Daleks even in this new era as particularly sophisticated thinkers. But Davros I can see looking at the bigger picture. There is something cool about a father-figure to these monsters who's always looking out for them but from a level that's closer to the Doctor's than some kind of Dalek Emperor type of silly bot-machine that can't articulate its evil in a human way. Shit like that. I think a clever writer could bring him back and make us all go "Aaaaah, niiiice".

I think what happened to Davros was pretty much what they did to the Master. They turned someone who could have been a cold calculating genius with an absence of compassion for others into something that merely ranted up to the cameras when the incidental music changed.

Davros went from something that was clever enough to sell out his own people in order to justify what he was doing - into something that screeched a lot and fell into the predicable trap of overacting and then having the rug pulled out from underneath him. The Master lost a lot of his subtlety and then turned into some kind of pantomime villain who laughed maniacally whenever he could..

I think that the Master should team up with the daleks. Davros may have been their creators, but he doesn't have the vision to hold the universe to ransom like the Master would. The Master vs Davros+daleks would be good as well..

[Elk]

I think its Mary Whitehouse's rotting corpse inside the Genesis Ark...

[anon76235]

what the dalek genesis arc all about then

[Spirit]

what the dalek genesis arc all about then

Watch and see...

[Bog]

what the dalek genesis arc all about then

It's like a plot arc, but with a very definite beginning.