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dtj · Post by **dtj** » Tue Feb 04, 2003 12:35 am 0

Yank, click "VLM" below.

Yak is not messed up. He (and others here) simply see things in an entirely different way. One might describe it as the perception of the mathematics of nature. I can't clarify that for you, sadly. You'll know it when you see it.

The answers are all here.

ps - welcome!

Yank · Post by **Yank** » Tue Feb 04, 2003 12:54 am 0

So is VLM some kind of music visualization thing? Thank you for the welcome.

dtj · Post by **dtj** » Tue Feb 04, 2003 1:37 am 0

Yank wrote:So is VLM some kind of music visualization thing? Thank you for the welcome.

Put simply, VLMs are performance instruments - a tool for creating video art, otherwise known as a "light synthesizer." These tools not only respond to music, but also respond to human input; the output of a VLM is a hybrid of the two (i.e, your input, and the the music being processed).

Yank · Post by **Yank** » Tue Feb 04, 2003 1:40 am 0

OK, so is Unity gonna be some kind of VLM+game? I'm just wondering how the gameplay fits in exactly.

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Tue Feb 04, 2003 2:59 am 0

DeimoS · Post by **DeimoS** » Sun Feb 09, 2003 8:54 pm 0

First of all I would like to say I'm new at this, so please dont give me any shit for my "newbee" questions. I would also like to give my best wishes and respect to the Yak.

Now, Is Unity VLM-3? and are we likly to see Unity on the X-box where [God willing] we could import our own music?

Mayhem · Post by **Mayhem** » Sun Feb 09, 2003 9:58 pm 0

Unity not = VLM3. VLM3 is the next in the line of lightsynth jobbies from Jeff to put it one way. He is currently testing out the GC's hardware and putting visual effects he likes into VLM3. Unity will probably look similar... we will just have to wait and see. But it will be a proper game, not just a lightshow...

PVB · Post by **PVB** » Sun Feb 09, 2003 11:06 pm 0

DeimoS wrote: <snip>...and are we likly to see Unity on the X-box where [God willing] we could import our own music?

We'll have to wait and see I suppose, but I doubt it.

Elizian · Post by **Elizian** » Sun Feb 09, 2003 11:16 pm 0

DeimoS wrote:First of all I would like to say I'm new at this, so please dont give me any shit for my "newbee" questions. I would also like to give my best wishes and respect to the Yak.

Welcome, DeimoS, to the

fluffiest

forum

in town

Have no fear ... we ain't got any shit here (unless you count the WHORING FOR SHEEP thread!)

DeimoS wrote:Now, Is Unity VLM-3? and are we likly to see Unity on the X-box where [God willing] we could import our own music?

VLM-3 is the result of Yak "playing" with the GameCube Dev Kit to see what it can do. The results of this work will form an integral part of Unity. It is unknown whether VLM-3 will be a stand-alone product or whether it will be ported to the Ox-Box.

moobaa · Post by **moobaa** » Sun Feb 09, 2003 11:19 pm 0

DeimoS wrote:First of all I would like to say I'm new at this, so please dont give me any shit for my "newbee" questions.

No shit for newbies here, DeimoS...

Just a big fluffy welcome!!

Yank · Post by **Yank** » Mon Feb 10, 2003 5:41 am 0

I got it! Hook your internet connection to your Cube like a lan thing, and then like download mp3s onto your game. Ok, that would be too complicated, but we need to do sumthin to put our own music in.

Shammer · Post by **Shammer** » Mon Feb 10, 2003 10:32 pm 0

I'm sort of wondering whether this here would work:

Assuming your system has the capabilities, would Unity/VLM3 be music-independent enough that you could simply have music playing that YOU can hear, but isn't going through the GC? I mean, from what I've heard, VLM3 was being controlled in toto by 4 humans. Maybe there was still some beat detection going on - I'm not sure. If that's the case, though, and Unity is similar enough to VLM3 in terms of visuals control just selecting music similar in style to the level's 'feel' and playing it on your stereo might work to some extent. Of course, it might not. I really don't know - just throwing it out there.

Even if it wouldn't work for Unity, would it work for a theoretical VLM3 Gamecube release?

dtj · Post by **dtj** » Mon Feb 10, 2003 11:40 pm 0

Shammer wrote:I'm sort of wondering whether this here would work:

Assuming your system has the capabilities, would Unity/VLM3 be music-independent enough that you could simply have music playing that YOU can hear, but isn't going through the GC? I mean, from what I've heard, VLM3 was being controlled in toto by 4 humans. Maybe there was still some beat detection going on - I'm not sure. If that's the case, though, and Unity is similar enough to VLM3 in terms of visuals control just selecting music similar in style to the level's 'feel' and playing it on your stereo might work to some extent. Of course, it might not. I really don't know - just throwing it out there.

Even if it wouldn't work for Unity, would it work for a theoretical VLM3 Gamecube release?

Yak has already publicly stated that beat detection in VLM-3 is currently akin to the "tap" function on most music sequencers - that is, you tap along with the beat until the VLM gets the BPM...

DeimoS · Post by **DeimoS** » Wed Feb 12, 2003 12:54 pm 0

Thanx for the nfo.

Looks like I'm gonna have a reason to playing my GameCube when Unity comes out, I can wait [gonna have to].

+ Thanx for the welcome.

Lockmist · Post by **Lockmist** » Sat Feb 15, 2003 11:11 pm 0

Regarding the issue of imports - Freeloader just landed (18 quid), against all my expectations, so if Unity gets released in the US first, I will import it. I already own a Cube, have been a yak addict for some time, really enjoyed T2K and am looking forward to Unity with bated breath... even if I'm not really sure what it's going to be like just yet.

Is Lionhead going to be giving AI support, maybe? Who knows?

It should be worth the wait, almost whatever it turns out to be. They only let you drink it when it's ready...